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mezzanineview) wrote2010-07-02 10:10 am
mezzanineview) wrote2010-07-02 10:10 am
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Either Moff is a mad genius (which he is), or he rewatched a few Fifth Doctor serials before his first series as showrunner began.
Or the universe is playing a massive trick on him.
Also, look at this dapper motherfucker right here.
As much as I've done some complaining about the recent Harry Potter films, and how I felt like I had to force myself through about the last half of the seventh book, the party posts surrounding Deathly Hallows part 1 are doing a number on me and I'm getting insanely nostalgic and a bit teary :( The final nail is going into the coffin of the HP franchise forever (unless JKR decides to dig it up at some point, but I'm pretty sure that's only when she's finished swimming in her money piles, SCrooge McDuck style~) and I'll be left with my dvds and well-thumbed copies of the booksand Twilight as The Next Harry Potter oh god save us D:
I was never part of the fandom while it was in its heyday, so I was never around for shipping wank or the legendary theories (Ron is Dumbledore, apparently), but in a way I'm happy for that because I haven't got anything to taint my memories of walking around my school with my nose stuck in Goblet of Fire, or spending every waking moment reading them. That and I guess I was dumb and didn't get that Ron and Hermione loved each other until someone told me (pre book seven), but there you go.
So rereading is in order, I think :)
Or the universe is playing a massive trick on him.
Also, look at this dapper motherfucker right here.
As much as I've done some complaining about the recent Harry Potter films, and how I felt like I had to force myself through about the last half of the seventh book, the party posts surrounding Deathly Hallows part 1 are doing a number on me and I'm getting insanely nostalgic and a bit teary :( The final nail is going into the coffin of the HP franchise forever (unless JKR decides to dig it up at some point, but I'm pretty sure that's only when she's finished swimming in her money piles, SCrooge McDuck style~) and I'll be left with my dvds and well-thumbed copies of the books
I was never part of the fandom while it was in its heyday, so I was never around for shipping wank or the legendary theories (Ron is Dumbledore, apparently), but in a way I'm happy for that because I haven't got anything to taint my memories of walking around my school with my nose stuck in Goblet of Fire, or spending every waking moment reading them. That and I guess I was dumb and didn't get that Ron and Hermione loved each other until someone told me (pre book seven), but there you go.
So rereading is in order, I think :)
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harry potter introduced me to the concept of fandom & the whole fucking internet thing that eats my life away now. it brought forums & communities & most importantly, fanfiction & fanart that i'd never done before & totally gave me practice at being arty/creative. i joined sites & messageboards & made friends who stayed with me & migrated fandoms with me & with whom i met up on several occasions which is always awesome.
& harry potter introduced me to the slash & the gay & discussions of feminist representation & all kinds of kinks i'd never even thought of & was part of my "woah shit i'm a queer" realisation & one particular crossover fic with velvet goldmine made me want to watch the film & then I DID & i fell in love with bowie & roxy music & that film made me check out placebo & then BAM the whole rest of my life was written.
pretty much. sooo yeah. sorry for the splurgey ramble. but like you, the upcoming deathly hallows (which is gonna be shitttt like the rest of the movies but i'm seeing it anyway because, uh, why would i miss it, & also i am DYING to see what they make of the harry/draco room of requirement bursting into flames scene) has made me all nostalgic & really fucking - idk, weird about HP coming to an end, finally, considering the impact it's had on my life.
... this could've been an entry in my own journal. but there you go. i'm saying it to you.
ps, i've been in france on holiday this week & one day when my sister was asleep all afternoon i sat on the couch with my ipod & watched all three episodes of doctor who with david tennant & john simm. & not gonna lie, i was pretty into it. i mean, i still think doctor who is kind of silly. like it's all a bit camp & sci-fi which is hardly my thing, & the treatment of time & space is not totally in line with what makes sense in my head - & some of the lines are a bit ridiculous, & i just can't work out what kind of audience the show is aimed it & if it's supposed to be scary or serious or funny or WHAT (buttt i get easily confused in my reactions, so it's mostly just me & my head being thick) but. the point is i got totally sucked in & all handflappy when exciting things happened & all "oh NO" when bad things happened & john barrowman made me lol with his HI THAR I'M AMERICAN LET ME FLIRT WITH YOU ways & i just pretty much enjoyed it over all.
there. i thought you ought to know. i shall now fuck off.
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I think when I started reading them, wayyy back in the seventh grade (so, like, twelve years old okay), I just read it for the pure enjoyment of being immersed in a world that I had quickly fallen in love with, alongside characters I could relate to (Hermione, the annoying nit who knows everything and only had a handful of friends = something I very much was back in middle school), and had no idea how to objectively ascertain that, yeah, Harry was PMSing a BIT too long in OotP and wait, was I supposed to cry when Sirius died? Oh. Like, it wasn't till I was older that I could measure writerly merit
and figure out why I didn't cry, so all I had was my enjoyment and I still grew up through the books. The finally-aware-of-an-outside-world kind of grew up. And fuck, I was taught about discrimination and shit with the way Lupin and Hermione were treated and that kind of stuff sticks with you.HP messageboards were my first contact with the internet too, oh jeez XD Mostly I remember insane theories on Mugglenet and huge ass fanfic archives
oh man it's all coming back to meand how I wanted a pair of glasses like Harry's, lol.I don't know if it would surprise anyone if I said my first reaction to slash & concepts other than heteronormative pairings was a big DNW--we all know how that turned out XD What can I say, I was young. The whole idea of two guys or two chicks together was a completely foreign thing to me; I didn't get Harry/Draco shippers or Lupin/Sirius or anything before that moment, so I feel like I missed a huge chunk of the fandom? Or I wasn't as accepting as I am now. I didn't know what fandom WAS then, even reading up theories on fansites.
As meh as the movies have been (except for PoA, imo, I fucking LOVED PoA's film), I'm tearing up every time I see stills from Deathly Hallows, and I have mad, nigh unexplained affection for Daniel Radcliffe's crazy ass and I hope he goes on to do awesome films and do more stage and play a drag queen like he wants to. It's a very sad time for me, because with the end of these movies I feel like I'm losing the last bit of my childhood. So yeah.
fucking lol, Ellie, the insanity is why it's awesome XD Okay, really though, the original target audience starting in the 2005 series was probably early teens and up, but like the classic series (circa 1963-1989) it's still sweet enough for older people to watch. But, okay, here, the way then-showrunner Russell T. Davies writes is crack, camp & high drama (what a contrast), so it's a mix of entertaining and being a bit too high concept for the lower age range. That particular series finale you watched is one of his more maligned solutions to the Doctor's conundrum, because he takes a cracking start ("Utopia" & "The Sound of Drums") and squanders it ("The Last of the Time Lords") on the deification of the Doctor. Now, to kids, they'll see all the SFX and sparkly tinkerbell Doctor and go starry eyed, and the rest of us will go wtf. Then you'll see the Master dying in
his boyfriend'sthe Doctor's arms and kids wouldn't understand why the Doctor is crying over the villain, but adults would be able to grasp it. It's imbalanced, but enjoyable nonetheless, imo, and seeing John Barrowman kinkily chained between two pillars does not hurt :PUh, did I help you sort it out? O__o I got a bit wordy...
But yes, I'm happy that you were receptive to it ^__^ It may not be the best introduction to DW, but, uh, at last there was hilarity and drama and outrageous sexual tension, non?
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I tiptoed around the edges of HP fandom, but it was pretty crazy, so although I kept a constant eye on it (I used to read The Leaky Cauldron, and listen to their podcasts, religiously), I never did more than stick a toe in the water, usually only in the Draco/Ginny world. I didn't start reading the books until the first movie came out, but man I love that series. I remember when book 5 came out, I was working at a summer camp with, thankfully, several other HP fans. We only had noon Saturday through noon Sunday off each week, so that first weekend after it came out, we all raced home and mainlined it. Then, the whole next week, during free time, we would sit in the field with anyone that wanted to join us, and we'd read aloud :D
HP wasn't my first taste of fandom as far as the internet goes, but it was the first time I had friends in real life that were as passionate about the same thing. I made 2 of my friends Potter scarves, taught another how to knit so she could make her own, and crocheted tiny Potter scarf bookmarks for everyone for Christmas. Being able to actually participate in flesh and blood fandom, apart from the internet, was amazing. All of the fun, none of the wank! :D
So despite the Epilogue That Never Happened, and general fan wankery, I love HP and even it's crazy-ass fandom, and I will be terribly sad when part 2 of movie 7 comes out. Have you seen the poster? OMG :'(
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This, so much. I mean, I didn't have a lot of friends in general at that time, but once we all started reading Harry Potter simultaneously, there was an EXPLOSION of activity and ever growing closeness :) It was just one thing we all had in common and that provided a pretty solid basis for friendship.
LOL @ the scarf bookmakrs! Oh man, that sounds amazing and I waaant one, haha. I'm totally guilty of scarf love (why yes, I do have a Tom Baker scarf, what of it), but I couldn't get/make a full size one back then because I lived in a freaking desert XD T-shirts were too warm!
GRRRR THE EPILOGUE
I like to think that the book ended before that atrocity was tacked on >.> I stillllll not part of the main fandom, but all of this coming to a close is going to be an awful, teary event ;__; Yes, saw the poster, had a good BAWWWWW :(
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I totally laughed out loud at Scrooge McDuck style omg...that's all I was thinking about when you said (or when anyone uses the term) 'swimming in money piles'
and oh hi who is that hottie? is that the 5th doctor? I
really wanthave been getting brainwashed by a certain few _beatlers lately to watch the show and idk where to start. Everyone is saying a healthy mix of 9/10/11 but I do love my late 60s/early 70s tv goodness...what say you?i'm trying to stretch this out to match the rest of the epically-long comments but i've just gotten up and i can't think very hard right now :p
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But yes, I'm glad to bring you some lulz XD tbh, that's what I picture her doing right now, pausing only to take hot mud baths with galleons on her eyes.
Indeed! That lovely man is Five, and hi, he's my faaaavorite. I AM VERY PLEASED THAT MY FELLOW APPLE SCRUFFS HAVE BEEN
BRAINWASHINGCOAXING YOU TO ENJOY THE DELIGHTS DOCTOR WHO HAS TO OFFER.The ontd_beatlers are right in recommending Nine, Ten, and Eleven to you first, as it's obviously done in a more modern style and is a lot easier to settle down into. As for the classic series, I love it just as much as the new series, but it's inherently a different beast than the new series. Like Star Trek: The Original Series? Classic Who is right up your alley, with less romance overall and more lulzy gallivanting across the universe with bad special effects.
I myself started with Nine, went up through Ten (because Eleven didn't exist at that point in time), then was very intrigued by a rather dapper, if grumpy version of the Doctor in a hilariously campy short for charity called Time Crash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7boeBf5pbQ). And it was pretty reverent of the history of the show, which I had very little knowledge of, but once I did some digging I found A) Five was a fox (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/puckinnichild/Whoverse/Five/d5-6q-008.jpg), and B) Classic Who is pretty damn awesome.
I don't think there's really a bad place to start watching, if you don't feel like you'll spoil yourself. The new series is more concerned with continuity than the old, and even if you started with Eleven, that season is somewhat removed from what happened with Nine and Ten (and that's how a lot of people started watching recently, in fact). If you haven't figured it out, Five is my favorite, and he only did three years, so he's an easy gateway drug to Classic Who. If you really want to get into the swing of it, Four spent seven years as the Doctor and is still the longest tenured of the lot, and he's absolutely bonkers to boot.
IDK THERE ARE A LOT OF CHOICES. Classic Who episodes are getting remastered all the time, so video quality from Doctor to Doctor, story to story varies greatly, and everyone reacts to each incarnation of the Doctor differently, so it's really up to you. I am only here to provide information :)